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Friday, July 15, 2011

NXIVM crowd light at Nancy Salzman birthday bash at Apropos


Well folks it was slim pickings for food at Nancy Salzman birthday extravaganza tonight as Espian’s steered clear of the being spotted at the informal gathering. Food was in short supply as the most interesting dish was veggie burgers that were sandwiched with rice cakes. Later guests chowed down on popcorn doused with soy sauce & nutritional yeast . All of this washed down with some nice soy milk. Fred the butcher {god rest his soul} would have been proud

I know many of you are disappointed about missing this lavish party but it’s not too late to join in the fun
Tomorrow July 16, 2011 at 7:30pm Perfects 's Formal dinner with live entertainment will take place at Apropos in Clifton Park, NY $25.00 tickets at the door

And one rumor circulating tonight was that super famous NXIVM singer Don Wos here hot off his wildly successful concert series in the Saratoga Winery parking lot and his legendary one night only show at Sunset Bay Campgrounds on beautiful Sacandaga Lake, Broadalbin, NY that sent raccoons running for the hills will be headlining.
There will also be a special car wash in Apropos parking lot to help cover the bands expenses. So please everyone join me in wishing the Crazy Nurse a joyful birthday. See you tomorrow

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hilarious stuff, John. How many actually showed up? Did they sic the cops on you again?

Young Turk 87 said...

Can anyone ID the clowns in the photo's?

Anonymous said...

Too funny!!

Dress like a Bronfman said...

From the wos bio.

"Dan Wos came back home to Upstate NY to form the club band that would change Albany's music scene and give it the high energy electrical shock it needed.'

So he headed off to play in a campground and winery parking lot for his summer "tour"

Too funny john.What a pompous asshole

Anonymous said...

Dan Wos is not only a crappy musician, he's also known as the House Detective!

Home Inspection TV Show with Dan Wos on YouTube

House Detective on Facebook

http://housedetectiveinc.blogspot.com/

BIG NEWS! The House Detective Grand Opening Networking Mixer is this Wednesday, July 20th, in Ballston Spa!

I also noticed that there are repeated claims that Trustco Bank is now 'partnering' with House Detective. However, I can find no mention of this partnership on the Trustco Bank website. I've had a savings account at Trustco for about 12 years, but I'll be closing that account and taking it elsewhere if I find out that Trustco is allowing their name to be used to promote the business of a longtime member of NXIVM.

nom nom nom said...

Veggie burgers on rice cakes? Seriously, nobody could ever convince me that Vanguard eats like that. From the looks of him, he has a bacon delivery service making stops on Flintlock Lane at least twice a week.

Retired REAL musician... said...

I've was a touring musician for over 30 years, and I did have the unfortunate opportunity to hear Wos and his "band" play once. Really rather horrid. In fact, he personally is just plain awful. Guitar out of tune. Terrible dynamics and he couldn't keep a tempo if he had a metronome glued to his ear. Executive Success my ass! There is another local "musical expert" also heavily involved in NXIVM/ESP. This character, John Chiara, is quite a case. He pretends to be a sound engineer. I've heard his so called "mixing" and it's laughable. He's also the same guy who lost a near fortune a few years back in a very foolish business deal. Executive Success? LOL!!!

Anonymous said...

I know the McCormacks and they don't take people falsely claiming endorsement by their band lightly. They are as fast to sue at Vanguard is. I just fired off an email to one of their attorneys. Let's see what happens.

I do know that typically, TRUSTCO does NOT recommend or endorse any business associated with Real Estate.

Anonymous said...

Ah, life on the road as a touring rock and roll musician can be tough.

After a while, all the campgrounds and wineries start to look the same.

John A. Chiara said...

Look out..facts coming down the tube!!
I took classes at Nxvim for about 18 month's in 2006-2007. Have had no involvement since then...never held any rank other than student. I can give references to anyone via email for my professional skill set. I will accept ANY challenge in this arena. There are many of us out here who took classes for a while and then either couldn't afford more or didn't have the substantial time required to go further...or left for personal reasons. We obviously had nothing to do with the business and legal operations of Nxivm. Someone emailed me today saying..."you are an active member of Nxivm...I can look up your student number!" You can look up the numbers of all the members who left the company in the highly publicized shakeup a few years ago....but they obviously are not still with the company. If someone was in prison 20 years ago you could find a prison number..that doesn't mean they are still in prison. For those trying to track down the truth in this situation, I applaud you..but I wonder how publicly trashing ex-students who have no influence or current involvement with Nxivm, and are working to support their families, is furthering this process? it seem to be just what Nxivm is accused of doing..harassing
people and making their lives a defensive hell. I am no financial wizard...I make good and bad choices...just trying to make a living in the real world...which I sometimes do mixing some high quality local bands.
Look out!!.Real name coming too...
John Chiara
Albany Audio Associates, Inc.

Ben lives on said...

John thank you for your honesty. Be aware that anyone who cares to refute anything written here it is not only welcomed to but encouraged

Anonymous said...

Fellow in the pic looks so vulnerable it's painful. Makes me really feel the hate for how predatory Executive Success Programs and NXIVM is. How much money has the poor guy already spent? Thousands, for what?

Raniere, Salzman, Bronfman's lying filthy scum.

concerned said...

Sometimes this does turn into a witch hunt. The problem w/ NXIVM and vanguard and nurse nancy is that they are a pyramid scheme praying on innocents with the emphasis on INNOCENT. People that went to classes are, by and large, the victims of the scheme. I thought the whole point of this blog was to prevent NXIVM from hurting more people, not to further destroy the lives of the victims. I think the post about the above person should be removed.

Anonymous said...

I disagree as a local business owner I am free to choose who I employ and what vendors I use. I will not knowingly hire or contract with anyone who ever took a NXIVM course.
1. They have shown an incredible lack of judgment
2. They must suffer from low self esteem and confidence problems to have had a need for their services..
3.Futher I will not advertise on Talk1300 or knowingly ever employ any attorney that has ever represented NXIVM.

I would also like to point out that since NXIVM is a for profit corporation and not a religion I am perfectly within my rights to discriminate against anyone who ever took one of their classes. I have worked too hard my whole life to entrust anyone who ever needed these hand holding self help classes with my money.

slightly off topic but knowing y'all love lawyers said...

Law schools still cranking out lawyers....lord save us



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/business/law-school-economics-job-market-weakens-tuition-rises.html

John A Chiara said...

Just a note...the classes were about as far from hand holding as I can imagine. There is good to be taken from every experience. I agree we all have the right to discern as we see fit in our personal lives and businesses. I do the same and also honestly inform others whom I feel should know my personal experience. Again, it gets dicey when commenting on a public forum and with questionably accurate information...but hey...it's a free country so...rock on.
John Chiara

Anonymous said...

8:08

YOU again with this trope!?!

6:50 is right. There is no witch hunt here and quit trying to turn it into one.

I support John because he is doing something good with this blog. Quit trashing it. What is wrong with you? Your position is sick.

Anonymous said...

John Chiara: good job and thanks for coming on here and making those 2 posts. This is how it SHOULD work. We readers encourage more Espians --past and present--to do the same. I know John wishes that, too.

Questions:

1. Would you have continued taking more classes, if not for the time and cost issues?

2. One and a half years -- that's quite an investment right there. Would you say you gained from the experience? Were the investments (time and money) worthwhile?

3. The timeframe you mentioned roughly corresponds to the time when you owned a certain high profile business in Troy. It is no secret that your tenure there was, shall I say, unsuccessful. Now, there should be no shame in trying something brave like this. But, why were the skills learned from ESP not of help?

4. Were any other Espians (including Raniere) involved in advising you in the running of that business?

5. Do you care to make any public comment on ESP and NXIVM here?

6. Do you feel you have the freedom to make a negative comment towards ESP, NXIVM or Raniere, without repercusssions?

7. What are your opinions on the "it has the basic qualifiers of a cult" allegations long made against the organization?

8. To you "prison" point. There is a reason employers often ask applicants for criminal history: it shows past judgment abilities and character. Do you not think the same can be true here when it comes to this Nxivm nonsense?

We would benefit from your answers.

John A Chiara said...

I have told my history...I have no further knowledge of any dealings. The classes were useful in many ways..noone had any communication with me on running a business...actually just the opposite...no interest would describe it.

Anonymous said...

I think we should allow Mr. Chair his privacy. He has admitted his error in becoming involved with them and has wisely abandoned the group. He's obviously operating a legitimate business now and we should all wish him great success. He obviously recognizes the severe, if unfair consequences of publicly denouncing those sociopaths and doesn't wish the legal wrath they could release on someone they see as a threat. He should be considered lucky to have escaped their clutches relatively unscathed.

Anonymous said...

yes? but he just lied to us.

his GM was a top level, inner cicle, senior Espian.

John A. Chiara said...

Wasn't a GM.....did a specific job...which included no connections to ESP at all. That person was not hired because the were an Espian...if you had real information you would know that.... maybe you could use a little tutoring on creating cause and effect equations?...and maybe signing your real name?..done and out. Talk amongst yourselves....

Weird News of The Little Sick Sad World said...

Hi, the stupid info of the day :

Kristin Kreuk doesn't really exists.

She's a NXIVM invention and her weird name is as dutch as petroleum is a good beverage.

KRistin KReuk is for KR - Keith Raniere.

And the other letters are for ITI NUKES :
Immediate Transient Incapacitation (nuclear weapons casualty criterion)

An atomic sex bomb anagram for a P-R hottie and his beloved master.

No wonder her ID# is 69 !!!

Anonymous said...

What, then, WAS her title, John?

What qualifications did she have for that title?

How did that work out for you?

Did you/she not host NXIVM womens' events in your facility? (Jness)

Did you have any involvement in the A Capella Festival at ESP?

Are you not involved in her latest enterprise called Evolution Talent Network (you are listed as such)

Have you provided sound services for any other nxivm events?

Anonymous said...

@6:05 pm

You're retarded.

John A. Chiara said...

Now you are asking me to provide info about things you claim to already have the answers to..at least you post like you do. Never hosted a Nxivm event...wasn't involved in the Acapella events in any way....I do sound for whomever hires me...I am an equal opportunity sub contractor....and in doing so...just like when a TV station airs an infomercial...it doesn't reflect my opinions....I just push faders.
Why don't you concentrate on something productive....jeeez!
If my personal info is so important to you, you need a hobby.

Anonymous said...

person polishing that car is one scary looking tranny, imagine that knee, in your face!

Anonymous said...

Johnny C is avoiding the questions and playing word games here.

FACTS:

Your business and facility was advertised as the host venue of JNESS meetings and member recruitment events. Deny?

Your associate (past and present) was a NXIVM insider and a key orgnanizer of JNESS. DENY?

JNESS, for those of you who are shell shocked by the dozens of NXIVM related organizations, was a front designed to entice new members into the cult thru wommen's networking and empowerment types of come on's.

There's the facts, Johhny.

Now, it sounds like you have a 'take it or leave it' attititude towards ESP. That is fine.

But why the avoidance of the truth?

Anonymous said...

oooo....someone got info they want to share...

Anonymous said...

Note to John Chiara:

Your Nxian number (5503) suggests that you got involved with the cult about mid-way through its existence. So, a few more questions for you:
- Who recruited you?
- Who did you recruit?
- Did you receive any commissions?
- Did you pay taxes on your NXIVM earnings?

Maybe it's time to go talk to the Feds, John 'cause you sure as hell don't want them coming to you. Reach out to JT and he'll put you in touch with the people there who can probably help you out.

PS: It is never too late to do the right thing.

John A. Chiara said...

My venue NEVER hosted any such events,,Jness didn't even exist then,,as far as I know. I am not going to anyone about anything...don't you read the rest of this blog? I don't need any "help" regarding Nxivm. I never recruited or earned anything. I am done answering leading questions...going Kayaking...have a good summer. I would regard any further probing as inappropriate. The only way I would continue ANY conversation is if you use your real identity.

Anonymous said...

Are there ever going to be any real charges against these fools?

Woodswalker said...
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Anonymous said...

"When you confer spiritual authority on another person… you are allowing them to pick your pocket and sell you your own watch." ~Alan Watts

Ben lives on said...

Woodswalker shoot me an e-mail at

kaisersoze1914@mail.ru

and I will fill you in
John

Anonymous said...

John A chiara - glad you used your middle so we didn't get confused. Well I commend you for coming on and setting things semi-straight. Many of wish we could use our real names but this is a public forum read constantly by van fat, the crazy ass nurse and offspring, and the bloodsucking lawyers that suck off the Broffman teat. And since just about anyone who says that nxivm isn't the best thing to happen to humankind since the post it note gets sued they are a little gun-shy. For some reason, I have a feeling that may be the reason that you aren't saying more and I respect that. Of cours, it could also be because you still believe in that pile of crap they sold you (for god knows how much money) and if that is the case then I just feel pity for you. The same pity I feel when watching intervention or handers on tv. Because if you stil believe then you will be back at their door as soon as you have 2 thousand bills to rub together ( and trust me van fat and company could give two shits about that family you are trying to support. Either way at least you had the balls to show and use your name - even if you chose not to answer questions - that is your right.

Anonymous said...

How do you bake a file in a cake?

Vic P

Dress like a Bronfman said...

His name in the photo is Evan Zimmerman he is nixivm #5768 his mother is Terri #5836. he works at Max Londons and is a Massage Therapist.

Beware of him John he is a true believer and his paid a great deal of money to watch you in uncommon grounds.watch your back John he is dangerous.

Bad taste in my mouth said...

Terri Zimmerman, A Realtor You Can Trust.

I don't think so

Anonymous said...

Can we get a summary of the festivities?

Cult Buster said...

Summary?

1. Zombies showed up, carrying bags of bologna and crackers

2. Nurse Nancy enter the room; zombies bow their heads

3. Tributes flow, check are written

4. Special guest Vanguard appears; zombies go into a frenzy

5. Vanguard tells zombies he has a new formula to save humanity and the new seminars for it start in two weeks

6. More checks are written

7. Nurse Nancy asks that all checks be switched to cash (ATM on-site).

8. Zombies are assigned their recruitment quotas and tasked with harassing a certain blogger.

9. Vanguard chooses two Espian babes to service him for the nite and exits

10. Band starts playing. Neighbors complain of possible homicide taking place soon after.

Anonymous said...

"When you confer spiritual authority on another person… you are allowing them to pick your pocket and sell you your own watch." ~Alan Watts

Well, then I guess the Bronfman dummies have had their watches picked several times over and then some, to the tune of 150+ million dollars.

But, hey...when you've never earned a damn thing in your life, how the hell could you know the value of money and the time it takes to earn a grand, let a lone mega millions?

A day late and a dollar short said...

Happy Birthday, John!

dandan500hp said...

I have been reluctant to make a post, as I believe that some of the information in this blog is both unfriendly and inaccurate. However, I do believe it is important to let you know that you have been misinformed. Posting inaccurate information about people is both harmful to them and it deteriorates the credibility of your blog by causing readers to not believe when more truthful information is presented. I have not participated in approx. 6 years, and do not appreciate being labeled or scorned for my previous participation or lack thereof by you or others. This is my final statement.
Dan _W.

Ben lives on said...

So Dan W are you saying your concert series in the Saratoga Winery parking lot wasn't wildly successful?