Well in another setback for alleged cult NXIVM the sane officials of Australian Patent Office have rejected NXIVM’S much-vaunted so called “technology” Rational inquiry method. The application is HERE.Saying
“While dressed up in somewhat convoluted terminology, what appears from the description is that the claims are directed to very common processes of counselling and therapy or personal motivation that are described in the documents cited and these would clearly form part of the common general knowledge of those practicing in the relevant art.”
The entire article is here.
NXIVM has a connection in Australia through Sue White and at one time held high level discussions about setting up their own Country in the Outback. They really are that fucking dumb. But really it was about having somebody, anybody give the stamp of approval to their “technology”.
Another good link;here
In other fucked up Bronfman news; Edgar Bronfman Jr. half-brother of Sara and Clare was found guilty in a French court of insider trading today. Bronfman, 54, was found to have traded on inside information. Bronfman must pay fines instead of going to jail for criminal charges related to Vivendi SA’s near-bankruptcy after a $77 billion acquisition spree while he lead the company with Jean-Marie Messierl . Bronfman received a 15-month suspended sentence at the hearing and was ordered to pay a 5 million euros fine. The whole story is here.
Edgar Bronfman Jr has the dubious honor of losing the most Bronfman money in a dynasty with a long history of pissing away the family fortune.
Edgar Bronfman, Jr. is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Warner Music Group (NYSE:WMG) since 2004.Under his tutelage WMG stock has fallen from a high in 2005 of over $30 per share to a value of 6.01, losing billions of the family fortune in the process.Many people trace the Bronfman fortune to a big time bootlegging and rackets empire, founded by Sam Bronfman. They were an early partner of Meyer Lansky, longtime “chairman of the board” of the international crime syndicate. Connected to the Buffalo-based Jacobs family they were the leading distributors for Bronfman liquor into the United States during Prohibition into the hands of local gangs that were part of the Lansky syndicate.
Expanding over the years, the family’s enterprises were once described as being “probably the biggest quasi-legitimate cover for organized crime’s money-laundering in the United States. Many long time Saratogians still remember prohibition in Saratoga and many a toast was lifted in the illegal Casino’s out at the lake in the twenties to Sam and Seagrams.
Not surprising that grandson Edgar was into insider trading and is now a convicted criminal at least in France. The difference between Sam and grandson Edgar is Sam at least made money.
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Similarities to the Kennedy syndicate abound.
JT
"The d e f e r e n c e between Sam and grandson Edgar is Sam at least made money."
Because this is not the kind of blog that attracts aholes who check each others spelling, thanks be to gawd, would not bother to comment on the above except that it reads so well and hits the mark.
The trouble caused by the Bronfman family does not end with NXIVM and Vivendi. It spreads worldwide to international issues that affect the ability to make peace in worn torn areas.
The Bronfmans feel they run things where ever they go, that they can command world leaders to do their bidding because of this original 'deference' between them and the Old Grand Dad.
Hey I never claimed I could spell
"ability to make peace in w o r n ? torn areas."
spelling? hey me neither :-)
just took the deference as a chance to bring up the fact that the Bronfmans are posers at ethics. They are not consistently 'good', just when it suits the agenda.
It must be so incredibly frustrating for Raniere that he cannot get more widespread conventional validation of his superior intelligence and of what a special person he is. Rejections of his patent claims must sting like a sunovabitch. That's ok - he'll just seek out some new young pretty thing that he can bamboozle into worshipping him as a demigod and stoking his needy ego.
Gee, with Edgar on the loose, the Bronfman sisters might actually pass as rational and ethical in contrast. Someday they are gonna have to face their own little "red pill" moment, and it's not going to be pretty. Yep, just another couple of little coppertops fueling the massive construct required to support the flailing ego of Vanguard.
Check out the story at:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/edgar-bronfman-jr-gets-richer-not-poorer-day-20110121-130035-656.html.
It's finally all starting to come together. The only question now is whether the Bronfman family patriarch, Edgar Bronfman, Sr., will build a private prison so that he can visit all 3 children (Edgar, Jr., Clare and Sarah) at the same time.
Too fucking funny..................
LMAO. Love the logo on the sweatshirt.
Good stuff, JT.
Here is a little follow up on your Saratoga History lesson:
Lansky, with a group of his mob buddies, built the Piping Rock casino on Saratoga Lake. He had the local officials in his pocket, who covered his back and let him operate without hassles from the local and state authorities, in a wink-wink manner.
Tied into this gambling was his core rum-running activities, where he was associated with the Bronfmans in putting together the "highway" for moving booze down from Montreal to Saratoga & Albany, where it then split in two directions: NYC (Lansky's home turf and in association with people like Legs Diamond) and Boston (handled by Mr Kennedy).
Various Saratogians found gainful emplyoyment in both these gambling and booze enterprises.
Eventually, the Piping Rock became Lansky's technical downfall, as it was used as the case to have him put away for 3 months as part of the Kefauver anti-gambling federal intitiatives.
After release, he was hired by Cuba's Batista as an advisor in jump starting that nation's gambling economy.
12:41
link
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/edgar-bronfman-jr-gets-richer-not-poorer-day-20110121-130035-656.html.
came up 404 not found
guess this blog is keeping someone busy
4:10, That link works if you take out the period at the end.
It would appear that Mr. VanSmart Raniere does not have any original idea he claims to have in the sale of his very expensive program.
Raniere cannot get any country to give him their stamp of approval. Why…. It’s not new and innovative and now countries are saying “No Way” fat boy.
The “data” of refused patents will not be shared with his faithful followers. He will not inform his people that his "patent pending program" is no longer “Patent PENDING” throughout most of the word and is really stamped “PATENT REFUSED"
Do you think VanFraud, the Not So Nice Nurse and their faithful sheep will be honest and ethical (cough cough) and tell people of the patent refusals? No way, the faithful who have good intent would have to start informing others of the truth like.... In 2003 the World Intellectual Property Organization refused rights to Raniere?
Will they have to be honest when selling the programs? Nope, not as long as there is one country left that Raniere and Salzman are waiting to be granted the almighty PATENT he so desperately needs to validate his smartness. They will justify that because there is one PATENT PENDING they are still PATENT PENDING.
“It’s not a lie, it's just not full disclosure”.
Knowledge of the Patent DENIALS will only happen when the smartest consumers find this blog and then they will know that the Patents applications are being REFUSED and there is a lie a foot in the land of NXIVM.
That is what you are really attempting to do with all those lawsuits isn’t it? Keep a lid on all the lies.
Shut Up, cover Up, and not get caught doing what you do. Well that is why you have not changed your destructive patterns over the years and years of behavior immorally and criminally.
You have gotten away with your dirty tricks before and have not been held accountable. You believe you won’t get caught, you believe you are way too smart to get caught, but are you… really?
No amount of the Bronfman money can save your ass now Raniere. Too much has been uncovered, discovered and share with the authorities.
We know you’ve been looking over your shoulder for years, haven’t you. Your neck must be tired from all that LOOKING.
You tell your followers that governments are after you because you are a genius who can change the world in a way they don’t want it changed. You, and many of us know better, it’s because you do illegal and immoral things, isn’t it.
You must be looking over your shoulder way more often now, don’t you?
So many, you could not control and know of your dirty little secrets have left you. All those in all your failed companies and relationships who left you. You above all, know that they know. You must know they will not keep silent, will they?
It was just a matter of time before they found each other, shared their stories with each other and now it’s all going to catch up with you, isn’t it?
What is it you say about NXIVM.... a small group of like minded people....
Bouchey, Plyams, O’Hara, Ross, Natlie, Dones, Woolhouse, and Ross will not have to deal with your evil ways much longer. Your legal dollars are going to be diverted and spent on your defense, the Bronfman girls defense, your little Nurse Nancy defense.
Than there are all the other who have aided and abetted your dirty little scams, Karen U who has been with you the longest, Pam C, Kristin K, Jim D, Esther C, Kathy R, Karen A, Mark V,Julianna V, Wendy R-B... just to name a few.
Yes you all are going to need legal defense war chest. Turning a "knowingly blind eye” to your deeds is not going to cut them any slack with the government authorities.
The stress has got to be getting to your “weakened heart”, if you still have one.
My God, than there’s your little Nurse Nancy, she has got to be a train wreck with the “Whack-A-Mole” of crimes coming to the surface. It’s exhausting protecting a lie let alone so many lies and such big lies, isn’t it? Think of the fragmentations that have taken place to protect your false image? So many minds, so many lives wasted on what….. your need to be admired?
Part II
You know what they say, Karma is a bitch. You will soon start to experience your karma full on. This is what keeps many of the harmed souls that are in the wake of your wreckage going. It’s a reason to wake up in the morning while dealing with the destroyed lives and broken hearts. It’s what many of us who loved those who have left us, emotionally and or physically due to your brainwashing torture have to live for right now. You know who the loved one are and so do we.
Some of us have been waiting for decades for your actions to catch up with you. Why wait, because we are the true humanitarians and we will not step over the line into the violence and use the options you have to get revenge.
Why, wait, the truth and the law is on our side. The wheels of justice turn so ever slowly but have been for many many years now and your time is almost up.
You will not get away with what you are doing for much longer. Raniere you need to… look harder, look more often, look over both shoulders, because they are coming and you can sense it in your soul. Your pride and ego get in the way. You know this is true and you still refuse to really take a deep look at yourself. You know you cannot stand what you see when you evaluate what you have become.
Maybe someday you will take that deep look within and forgive yourself for what you have become, admit your wrong doings and heal your soul before it’s too late for even that.
My God have pity on your soul Raniere, God and your faithful followers might be the only left who can.
Raniere faithful followers tell people he is the world greatest humanitarian and he can save the world.
If he was and could he would not be torturing those who left his flock. He would turn the other check and move forward with his mission as real humanitarians do.
I’m sure he sells it to his flock as being a good "multi-tasker" he can be healing the world while destroying his enemies in the battle field of the court systems and it's a good kind of destruction. Hell they will by anything his zombies will sell for him.
He does not fool us who have a much clearer vision of his need to punish and does not fit into the likes of Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, or the Dalai Lama. Let’s face it, this blog would be writing about other things, even good things about Raniere if Raniere was out in the world doing "good" things.
Raniere himself is not even a compassionate humanitarian. Those who have the guts to question or stand up to his non-logical thinking get punished or brain fucked.
If you believe he is the most compassionate and ethical man you might want to check out what is going on in all those law suits. Come on, 8 ½ years of bankruptcy hell for Toni Natalie. Almost 8 years of court room hell for Rick Ross.
These are just to name a couple law suits. Raniere couldn’t even win Natalie’s law suit after having Salzman file complaints, Keefee filing a complaint and Raniere filing complaints twice. There was no real case, just lies.
To date he has not won anything in the Ross case and don't think he will win the final battle with Ross.
This guy is a total psycho with "his fallen" in the court systems. You either have to leave and live with the fact that you kept your mouth shut about all the wrong doings allowing others to blindly sign up or step up to right a wrong and get the shit beat out of you in the court system by this sick man.
Thanks to John, having never taken a course or signing one of the NXIVM gag orders, he has made this venue available to speak out about this sick group and its leaders.
I know they are trying to shut you down JT but you are a match not met before in the publishing of information about NXIVM that you do.
No tail between the legs running for comfort here folks. JT seem in it for the long haul.
I think if you don’t like what’s written here don’t read it, shut the F….K up and go do your Raniere is a super human blog.
This is America and we have the right to a free press.
Raniere if you are reading this.... Look over your shoulder, do it NOW.... THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU
You must not even get a full nights (or day) of restful sleep anymore. You know they are coming. Maybe they will come and take you away at volleyball, maybe in the bed of one of your many sex slaves that think they are your lovers, maybe while on a midnight walk around the block.
Hush little baby, don't you cry, you will look good in orange. With that long hair and baby fat, men at the prision will admire you.... at least your sweet ass.
Than and only than will you know the HUMAN PAIN of being screwed the way only people like you can screw people over.
Some might say this is cold, angery and callus but that is what happens when you lose your daughters, your wife, your sons, your husbands .... to name a few things you destory. They have not walked in the shoes of those you destory and until they do, they speak of what they do not know.
What comes around goes around and your time is coming.
I leave you now to go enjoy the rest of my weekend why you look over your shoulder.
No it's not the boggie man... you know who it is. Mostly yourself and the authorities.
WAIT LOOK NOW, OVER YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER. When you think of this post you will need to look won't you. You will not be able to stop yourself as you know it is true. You have created your own prison but there are many who will rest only when you are in one of the NY State prisons.
Don't forget to look
Peek a boo,I see you.Worried yet? You should be
John
Clifton Park, New York, United States
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Note to Kathy Russell:
Congratulations, Sage...you're now on the feds "Top Ten NXIVM Targets" list. Maybe it's time for you to take the cash that's in the office safe and head back to Alaska. If not, then you're be practicing your ballet moves in a cell in federal prison.
Note to Ivy Nevares:
Did you know that VanFraud has high-def videotapes of some of your sexcapades with him? Yep, he did.
Know how I know? Cause I can tell you the exact location of that little birthmark that you worry about way too much.
How sad, another misunderstood genius. Too bad being misunderstood does not a genius make. :)
Actually, describing that patent applications as "bullshit" is giving it WAY TO MUCH CREDIT!
Some lawyer too KR all the way to the bank charging in $300+/hr to write that 52 page piece of crap! How's it feel to be THAT stupid, Mr. Vanguard?
I hear that Ivy Nevares is an illegal immigrant. Where is ICE on this?
Report suspected illegal aliens to ICE at 1-866-DHS-2-ICE 1-866-347-2423. ICE Regional Intelligence Center SE-FIU@dhs.gov
LMAO - http://www.keithranierepatents.com/
I'm verklempt; he really is a genius. Check out all the patents he holds in so many varied areas (and only "some" of them are "patent pending"). I... I... I... aw hell I can't keep up with the sarcasm so I'm going back to...
LMAO.
one more website that contains the refused patented information of Raniere / Vanguard
Not as much as the WIPO but it's there for the viewing.
http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/aub/aub_pages_1.process_simple_search?p_application_no=2007221889&p_procedure=paint_simple_search
Sounds like posters here know about some possible criminal issues that may fall upon nxivm. If it's true that's the best news possible. However, as we remember with Tick Tock...it didn't work out so well. As I previously wrote, this gang hurt many many many people who want nothing more than for raniere and co to be locked up with bubba for many years. People who have been hurt are praying for justice, please don't post things that will give people false hope as it only makes the suffering worse. If someone really knows something about an investigation, charges, anything that will put raniere in deep shit in the near future please post. But don't give us victims false information..it only makes it worse.
"Keith Raniere has an estimated rarity of 1/425,000,000 with respect to his problem-solving ability when compared to the general population."
This is one of the biggest bull shit statements I have ever read. How do the people in this group fall for such idiotic nonsense and then claim themselves as critical thinkers?
Post @ 1:11
It's called brain washing and mind control. It only works on certain people and it's very powerful. Some people call it born stupid some people call it mind control.
Unfortunatly, we have seen it work and raniere is actually pretty good at it, amazingly it's the only thing he's good at.
Maybe one day someone will stop him.
I will say this, when you are inside with other people who seem normal who reinforce this mans beliefs, you really do start doubting reality....usually it doesn't work but look at people who have been with him for 20 years, kristin, karen, pam, salzman, and let's not forget bronfmans, they buy his snake oil.
I've seen some doctors and professors and lawyers and they do buy his shit. JUst depends on how vulnurable you are at the time he gets his little dirty paws on you.
The History Channel has been running a series about Adolph Hitler and his brainwashing of the vast majority of the German population. So don't assume that only a small percentage of people can get sucked in by Raniere or that those who do are "born stupid" or more susceptible than others.
All we can do at this point is hope that, a la Hitler, Raniere will marry Salzman and then join with her in a joint suicide pact. And if he wants to get his other long-term followers to join with the two of them, that's even better.
He loves himself too much to kill himself.
I hope salzman turns herself in for what ever she and raniere did do.
I'm affraid it's going to take many many years to bring down the smelly little man.
To: Hurts too much,
Remember the wheels of justice run slowly. To post anything about any investagion will tip some hands to Fat Boy so it will not be posted here. In time all with know the truth.
Take comfort in knowing that when all things are in alignment his day will come. Some have waited for decades (trust me he's been at this since he was a teenager) so a bit longer is just a bump in the road.
He thinks he knows who we are and is on to us. He doesn't even have a clue. Rack your brain Fat Boy but don't come to Texas, if you know what I mean.
He knows all he has done. He knows he had not covered his tracks
What he has done will bring him down and those who have protected and covered up for him.
His patents being refused is not his major concern at this point, it's his freedom and his image.
Hush Little Fat Boy.... Don't you cry, go comfort yourself with some pizza pie.
PS Hows your neck doing with all that looking over your shoulder? What's it called.... an EM? Have you asked your Wet Nurse to work with you on your reactions to this weekend postings or do you know am EM is really just bullshit like all the patent offices?
Maybe you can get one of your girl toys to suck your nipples for comfort after your pizza.
I don't think raniere has his name on anything. If anything the gov. will go after salzman and bronfmans but raniere is a wild dog according to a wise man I know.
Curious what he has done that will put him in the big house.
I read rumors that he did something to underaged girls...but that was years ago when he was younger himself. Isn't there a statute of limitations ?
Hope not.
Nothing would bring more happiness to my family (and I mean this literally) than to see the little fat stinky man locked up...but it seems so hard to imagine it because we have been waiting much to long for justice.
Thanks John for all the hard work bringing the little fuck head to light and exposing him for the little turd that he is.
God bless you and your family. Give Bruno a big kiss !!
6:28
On the comment that Raniere cares less about his patent than he does about his image. Rings true. Injured majesty is what causes Keith Raniere’s relentless pursuit of critics. For anyone to leave NXIVM is an offense against the dignity of Vangod.
Last Saturday, the radio played an opera that relates. Rigolleto is based on a play that mocks a monarch. The play was banned by the monarchy and so was the opera, but Verdi changed a few details and got it produced. In it the Duke is a cynical immoral womanizer, just like Raniere. Cannot get enough tail.
Rigolleto is the court jester and despises the Duke. He mocks all of the Dukes followers and to get revenge they bring Rigolleto’s daughter to be seduced by the Duke. The Duke’s lackeys even trick the old man into helping them do it. Rigolleto hires an assassin to kill the Duke, but the plan goes awry.
In the last act, Rigolleto is carrying a sack in which he thinks is the corpse of the Duke. Then he hears the Duke singing, and realizes his mistake. Inside the sack is his beloved daughter. Gilda revives for a moment and tells her father she is glad to die for the Duke.
Duke: Vanguard Keith Raniere,
Rigolleto, father: Edgar Bronfman Sr.
Gilda, daughter: Sara Bronfman
Vanguard Week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmUzPIoW1Fs&feature=related
The Duke is on to the next woman, while father and daughter watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4UdG9CXz1I
Rigolleto loses his daughter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz0Y2liYkcI
Signor Bronfman, isn’t it about time to get your daughters away from this despicable man?
Interesting how this patent application leaves out the murder/suicide ethics and the how to deal with suppressives who cry "cult" or "manipulator" ethics as well. And how it's even obviously in a new typeface cut and pasted from the original, unchanged typeface, wherein those motives are revealed.
At least, Bronfman Jr. got a bang for his bucks, at the end of the day he still owns Warner Music. Whereas, he's lucky his sisters are alive and if he doesn't wanna see them dead I'd recommend prompt action!
"All fear is a lack of data"??? Did anyone else catch that on p. 25? What the fucking fuck is wrong with these people? John, please post the new legal docs so your loyal readers without a Pacer account can enjoy. I am utterly flabbergasted.
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