As incredible as it sounds I am going to relay the events of today. Hold on to your seats boys and girls it’s a wild ride.Heading out today from my home with boatloads of cash to rent a room at the hottest cult compound around Silver Bay. I went up alone with my car and the few newspapers with stories in them just in case I needed them for local Law Enforcement. I didn’t realize at the time but that was the smartest thing I’ve done in a while.
So I drive up to a public Church on the grounds were the sign specificity said ALL WELCOME. As a practicing Catholic I went in and said a prayer{it went something like this “Please god make me holy but just not yet”} After saying my simple act of contrition, I walked in plain view down a path past the meeting house{were a NXIVM meeting was joyfully taking place} and walked into the Hotel Lobby were I said “Hey sweetie got a room for tonight I could rent.” The answer was No. Could I walk around again No. Could I visit your nifty gift shop again NO. Absolutely no pictures can be taken and you have to leave now. I asked the magic word. Excuse me but isn’t that a public road dissecting this place. Yes it is, but we have already called the police. I retorted; “and well you should, for the way you treat potential guests is a crime.”
Well at this point although they had amateur security at the doors to the meeting house. The professional goons came out and they were as the Arlo Guthrie said in Alice's Restaurant
“there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people”
The quickly surrounded me with one walking close behind me as I exited by their driveway.Patience readers it gets good.
Now I took a stroll down the public road and my entourage followed me as two managers of the YMCA came out. I will call them MUTT and JEFF
MUTT and JEFF; you do not have permission to take picture
Me; you can not deny me what I did not ask for. There for it is impossible to deny me permission of something I did not seek.
MUTT and JEFF; this is private property and I FORBID YOU TO TAKE PICTURES
Me; Look Chief, this is a public road. I have as much right to walk on it as you do. You only have a reasonable expectation of privacy when you are in or behind your building. I also would like a copy of your written policy on YMCA letterhead denying me the right to take pictures in a pubic right of way.
MUTT and JEFF at this point were growing exasperated with four mean, nasty, ugly
Looking security guards encircling me I made my way down a public road to my car. There are now six against me.
When I get to the public road I turned and took pictures of my entourage.
MUTT and JEFF; I forbid you to take pictures of our guests.
Me; Look Einstein I am taking pictures of you and the goon squad. And quite frankly if you weren’t following me I would have no pictures to take.
I bet you weren’t tops in your class at executive Y training?
I try to walk up the drive way to my car.MUTT and JEFF; you can’t walk up my driveway.
Me; look Sherlock see that car?
MUTT and JEFF; Yes
Me; Well you score two points for eyesight. Now look at that sign. Does it not say “ALL ARE WELCOME?”
MUTT and JEFF; that doesn’t apply to you.Me; Well are you telling me that you will not let me get my car? A car that I parked in good faith in a church parking lot that has a sign that says “ALL ARE WELCOME?”
MUTT and JEFF; that church is owned by me.
Me; how is that possible are you the local Bishop?
MUTT and JEFF; that belongs to the Y and I own it.
Me; that’s incredible your last name is YMCA?
MUTT and JEFF; Look; I’m in charge take your car and go
Me; Can I stop and say a little prayer for a safe ride home, in the church?
MUTT and JEFF; No
Trust me it gets much worse.
Now anyone with a brain would have gotten the fuck out of this zoo but I wanted to bug the meanest, nastiest, ugliest security guard who kept getting behind me{which I hate} So I fired up the Spyder and circled back around and took a few more pictures of the goon.
Now this is where the story should end right? Well what happened next must be one of the strangest encounters I’ve ever had in a strange life.
I leave and stop at the Tongue mountain parking lot.
I park my car and have my door open drinking a diet coke.
And a trooper pulls in.
I walk over to his car and say
Me; Silver Bay must have called you let me explain.
So I talk and talk and the then a Warren county sheriff pulls in and then an armed Forest Patrol officer.
Now the conversation is still friendly, but I sense something else is going on. I show them the Post Star and the New York Post story about them and me and Gailen.
And then NXIVM made a blunder. A BLACK FUCKING Cadillac Escalade pulls in the rest area with tinted windows and starts watching the proceeding.
Me; See that Cadillac Escalade? There NXIVM professional security goons some might be former Israeli Mossad agents and they shadow me night and day
Trooper; No Shit.
Forest patrol guy walks up to the Escalade exchanges words and he takes off.
Forest patrol guy; he wasn’t making it up.
State Trooper; You’re free to go, but can we talk to you.
Me; Sure
State Trooper: Did you ever work at Silver Bay, or do you know anyone who worked there, or is working there now?
Me: No; I have no interest in Silver bay except NXIVM is there.
Trooper: Do you know what they called us for?
Me No what?
AND I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP
Trooper; they said you are a terrorist. That you and some friends in the hotel had a plot to poison the drinking water and commit MASS MURDER.
Me; No fucking shit.
Trooper ;{Laughing} So are you saying you are not going to poison their water and commit mass murder.
Me; Yes Sir I hope I’m not going out on a limb sir, but I am definitely not going to poison Silver Bay’s Drinking water and commit mass murder.
Trooper; On your way Citizen
Me; Thank you.
And I mean that with all my heart. I could have been shot. The largest resort in 50 miles has some nut job call and tells them I’m a fucking terrorist and going to kill these people.
Can you imagine the stress these Attendees must be feeling? Told their water could be poisoned and the staff and me are behind it.
Look my readers its late I’m stressed and I’ve probably made more than my usual boatloads of grammatical errors. But I am coming to realize the ruthlessness and depravity I am up against.
But I stand unbowed and strong, the fight for truth and justice will continue, till tomorrow
GOOD NIGHT
If anyone wishes to verify any of the facts presented here.
Contact
Bolton Landing ;Zone 2 Station
State Police
Cross Street, PO Box 425, Bolton Landing, NY 12814
518-644-2555
44 comments:
Let me tell you something, my friend. There are some people in this world that think they can literally get away with anything. Often times, good people in the world wonder, why does God let these people get away with such things sometimes? Well, let me tell you something. God is the most merciful, but he also has a wrath. When human beings tend to hold wrong beliefs alone, he doesn't mind so much. However, when those wrong beliefs start transgressing against the rights of other people, that's when he starts to get angry. There is a saying: "fear the prayer of the oppressed." So, when God allows certain people to get away with stuff for a little while, and they know they're doing wrong, don't worry. Have some patience, and trust in Him. He's just filtering out the good from the bad, the hypocrites from the sincere. And for the really bad, he's just setting them up for massive humiliation, not only in this life, but in the next too. Peace.
This is an easy one.
Sometime in the last week (and I don't remember which article), a comment was posted where the commenter made a 'joke' about putting something in the water, and kidnapping some of the attendees. This commenter stated that he was coming to V-Week with you.
That was obviously posted by someone from NXIVM. Once you approved the comment, they could use that as 'evidence' that you and the people on this blog were planning to hurt people in Silver Bay.
The good news is that it was a BUSH LEAGUE attempt to cause you trouble. Is THAT the best thing a cult being led by THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE can come up with? HAHAHAHAHAAH!!
Best of all, you can easily eliminate the possibility of similar harassment in the future.
In my opinion, you have some tough choices to make, John. When your blog readers post comments about how they want to hurt or see harm come to NXIVM members, even if it seems that they are being satirical or simply blowing off steam, you need to decide whether those comments go through.
The beauty of this blog is that commenters can be anonymous but that's also one of the aspects of the blog that NXIVM could take advantage of. At the end of the day, you are the one who decides on how much you will allow people to express their anger.
Personally, I think you can keep about 99.9% of what's posted here, and you can keep allowing people the freedom to talk about NXIVM in a no-hold-barred way while being sure that no one is being threatened.
Go fuckin get em tomorrow, brother.
These are hard hore goons pretending to be nice ethical people.
If you really want to understand this group just reverse everything they say and you will be in good place.
Very ethical. Calling someone a terrorist who wants to get to the truth.
Speaks alot about this peice loving group.
really speaks alot about them.
very frienly and nice people we can tell.
Be careful, John. It looks like it getting very dangerous for you. God Bless.
Man if i was living anywhere neat there, I would love to show up with you.
If they are former mossad agents in the security staff, their former employer still have prerogatives on them !
They are certainly not working with NXIVM on behalf or with the benediction of mossad as NXIVM is (in)directly interferring with Israeli's interrest !
So, I don't know what they really are... You don't leave mossad or KGB/FSB that easy !
And I think they are in a big trouble yet (כידון)...
Tighe,
I typically don't respond to your diatribes, but this one is truly priceless!
You?!?! A Terrorist?!?!? You may be guilty of being an asshole, or maybe even the anti-christ. But a terrorist?!?! Un-fucking-believable... I'll admit I don't really care for you, but this one is absurd....
So are you on the FBI's most wanted list? Must have missed your picture; somewhere between Bin Laden & Ravelo.
What a wild ride John. But keep in mind that liars actually believe that truth tellers are terrorists. Them lying to the State Troopers about you is just an act of desperation.
Awesome story! These are indeed sickos. You are a brave man. I wonder what they told their sheep.
As an aside, Tongue Mountain is one of the few remaining areas of NY with sizable populations of CrotAlu horridius (timber rattlesnakes). If Vanguard gets bit I bet they all line up for the honor of sucking out the poison.
Lying to a law enforcement officer is a crime and lying about terrorism is, I believe, a Federal crime under The Patriot Act.
nice work john. this blog is awesome.
WOW x 100.
I took the offending comment down.
It was clearly written in such an over the top satirical way that only a half wit would take it as anything more than an attempt at humor.
They seem to be playing the John Tighe is a terrorist card for all its worth.
They just love to play the role of the poor innocent victim in all of this.
such lies. I saw the whole thing yesterday and John was rude to the people and never once was on "public" property and the chapel is not a public church. The word terroist was never once uttered by anyone. This man has a lot of you fooled. I am not defending Vangaurd, I am just stating that John is no better than they are.
"They just love to play the role of the poor innocent victim in all of this."
The irony is that they preach that "there are no ultimate victims". They sound like a bunch of hypocrites.
Anonymous 9;17 I hope you enjoy giving your "Tribute" to you "God"
I understand your mind is a little soapy but you do understand that it is a "public Road" and the church does say ALL ARE WELCOME.
As far as being rude.
They asked me to stop taking pictures and I refused.
Stating my reasons. I did notice many people taking mine.
If anyone wishes to verify any of the facts presented here.
Contact
Bolton Landing Zone 2 Station State Police
Cross Street, PO Box 425, Bolton Landing, NY 12814
518-644-2555
But you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.
Enjoy your 8 day birthday bash,enjoy giving away your body,your dignify and your soul.
But don't ever bitch
BUT NOBODY EVER WARNED ME
Excellent work, John. I admire your courage - and your sense of humor. Your blog is responsible for cutting my work productivity in half. :)
Please be careful. Why not bring your dog next time? Perhaps some of your "moles" will send you some information and/or photos later this week? Also, consider sending someone whose face is unknown to Silver Bay in your place. Something tells me you are more than one step ahead of me.
Good luck and THANK YOU!
Silver Bay should take some of the responsibility here. They are a Non Profit and as such they are exempt from paying property taxes or school taxes. Andrew Cuomo of the Attorney Generals office should look into there status and see if Mutt And Jeff are receiving any payoffs from NXIVM to allow this circus to sully the good name of the YMCA.
In the mean time if any of you would like to write a review of Silver bay go to
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g48613-d1202957-Reviews-Silver_Bay_YMCA_of_the_Adirondacks-Silver_Bay_Lake_George_Region_New_York.html
TO ANONYMOUS 9:17 AM - Is that you, Siobahn? Has VanFraud or NotSoPerfect ordered you to harass John as a "consequence" for your public outburst at the coffee shop? Or are you jst doing this to get another stripe?
TO POSTER AT 10:09 AM - Do you really expect Andrew Cuomo to do anything about Silver Bay's over-the-top treatment of John when they won't do anything about a 3-year old child that is being mind-fucked by VanFraud and his wing-nut girlfriend, Kristin Keefe? Wake up, son, the AG has been bought off by the Bronfmans' political contributions (Check out just how much Andrew has already taken in from members of the dysfunctional Bronfman clan).
To: JOHN - THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO EXPOSE THESE KOOL-AID DRINKING FOOLS. I WILL GLADLY COVER YOUR BACK ANYTIME YOU DECIDE TO RETURN TO SILVER BAY.
John,
The above post is accurate calling someone a terrorist especially after 911 and to federal authorities is in fact a serious crime.
Remember, there's a public record of this incident. I would contact the troopers and get a copy and possibly a statement as to what happened. You can take that to federal authorites who will take that very very seriously. They have to especially after 911.
I strongly encourge you to do so.
Thats some serious violations punishable by prison.
Something else was said above which is true.
You have to take what they say and do and reverse it. Raniere likes to make black into white and white into black.
They are the fucking terrorists terrorizing you with their security guards, etc. etc.
Don't let this opportunity get away lying to a federal officer and making false accusations is a serious federal crime.
you have to report it.
John,
you must use this opportunity to contact federal authorities. What they did is a very very serious federal crime.
There's several federal violations that they committed that i assure you will be taken very seriously by the federal gov.
you shouldn't let this opportunity pass you by.
I predicted they would call John a criminal. I was wrong, he is apparently a terrorist. Hmmm...
If he shows up again, he will then be labeled a stalker, even though this nutty group stalks HIM!
I love the Rent a Cop, with his arms folded like he's pouting.
Does the Mall know he's moonlighting?
Just a FYI.
"You do not need permission from someone to take their picture if they are in public view. However if they in an area where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy, you are not allowed to invade that privacy by photographing them. So for example you can't use a telephoto lens to peer into someone's bedroom."
But you can anywhere outside of Silver Bay.
So go ahead and click away John.
Actually, thats not quite 100% accurate.
You can snap a photo of someone if that person is on public property and if the act does not interfere with the public (example: a tripod in the middle of a sidewalk). The 'public view' assessment of the prior poster applies.
On private property, you can be asked NOT to snap photos (as well as be asked to leave), to which you must comply. However, the person making the request may not grab you or your camera. Their only remedy is to call in the police.
If you are on public property, you may snap photos of someone that is on nearby private property, with that "public view' consideration. They cannnot request that you stop.
OMFG John - if you were the only Non-nxivm person refused a room than that seem like Silver Bay has a legal issue also.
On what grounds did they refuse you a room at the inn? Were the full? What is their policy on refusing to rent a room to someone?
When I went to v-week (never really drank any kool-aid and full detoxed from second hand exposure) there were a lot of people who stayed at Silver Bay who were not going to v-week.
Did the brat girls buy up every room?
The treatment you received from Sliver Bay and nixvm can be the best thing that could have happened. It takes this kind of freaky behavior to get the press to pay attention to these kind of groups.
When the press starts to expose the wrong doings than the public puts pressure on the law makers. (I.E. government)
The AG is digging a grave for his Governorship. When this thing really blows nationally and internationally in the press than everyone will know that his office has been doing nothing for years.
He is going to have "some splaining" to do about why he has refused to do nothing about all the wrong doings that have been reported to his office about this group.
OMG this is a Lifetime movie in the making
Damn, i wanted to go up with you.... we would have had video... Maybe i will head up alone to check it out... although i will have to skip the six pack since it is likely the law will be involved.
If success is an internal state of clear, honest knowledge of what you are, your value in the world and your responsibility for the way you react to all things, than why such reactions to all this attention.
It appears the more Vangod pushes back with the behavior of calling the police and lying about John, the legal letter that Ms. Pam sends, and all the law suits, it appears Vangod is creating this seemingly unwanted attention from the press and the community.
Maybe Vangod wants this, maybe he wants to be caught and a big story written about the truth of his doings. Maybe he is tired of covering up all the lies.
I'm sure the Not So Nice Nurse would want this exposure due to the legal bind this could put her in.
If there are no ultimate victims, therefore, you will not choose to be a victim.
If this is true than why all the fuss about any of this? Why the law suits, why the lawyers, why all the security, why lie to the cops about John being a terrorist?
Who ever called the cops and said this is in big big trouble. I'm sure it wasn't Vangod who made the call but some poor kool-aid drinking fool who wants Vangod's and the Not So Nice Nurse attention so they can masquerade as successful.
To the Caller of the police, hope you get promoted at the birthday bash to make your jail time for this federal offense worth it.
Just a reminder to all nxivm followers you say daily that you will never trade your integrity or inner honesty for any other value. You know it is never worth it.
If you pay attention to the red flags of doubt you will see your way out of the fog of confusions of nxivm.
Good journey, may the wind of Vangod be at your back.
Calling someone a terrorist to third parties is a very serious action and accusation.
To do so knowing it is not true is even more serious, and is likely a crime. Likewise, it could spark a civil matter based on slander.
To do so after planting a fake comment on a blog that is done so with the intention of providing justification for the accusation of someone being a terrorist is potentially an even more serious crime -- one that involves Interstate Wire Act ramifications.
Let the fun begin.
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?
WOO-HOO!
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?
WHOO-HOO!
There's a ZILLION of us who have volunteered to join John's motorcade for grins and giggles and potential witnesses to any Tomfoolery. But NOOOOOOO-- That MAD, EVIL, POWER-CRAZED MESSIANIC MANIAC keeps us in his SHADOW... leaving us to beg and plead for the TABLE SCRAPS offered here. It's like... he's... the leader... of... a...cult.
OMG!--
WE am TIGVM!!!
-Kyle York
I am John's Live Child
...that's "LOVE" child...
...and Kyle keep the crown of Saratoga's reigning Village Idiot.
But watch out Mr Dork: Bronner is planning a comeback.
Anybody else notice the security goon in the video has a nametag that identifies him as "Roger," and that he's there working for NXIVM?
Those were the only two words I could read before Roger folded his arms to cover up his ID lanyard.
And really, I have a hard time calling an incompetent lumpy douchebag like Roger a 'goon.' 'Goon' makes it sound like he's someone to fear. Like anyone is a afraid of a 50-something chubby insecure bumbling mall security guard.
A slogan on the YMCA website ymca.net reads:
"Dedicated To Today's Youth"
If this is their mission, you would think that the YMCA would want to distance themselves from a group that has some very serious allegations of psychological abuse of and illegal adoption of a small child being reported by multiple mainstream news sources.
To All Readers Of This Blog:
Please join with me in wishing VanFraud a happy, happy 50th birthday (Yep, today is that special day)- and in hoping that this is the last one that he celebrates outside of jail. My other hope is that VanFraud gets a very large, nasty, and HIV-infected cellmate who has at least two children who got involved in a cult and who pissed away all of the money they inherited from their grndmother.
John, seriously they were trying to have you killed "murder by cop" style. These people are very dangerous and evil. Thank God cooler heads prevailed and you are OK. I cannot believe they were stupid enough to show up in the Escalade with the cops there. You should get a copy of the incident report. I agree they violated numerous laws and should be prosecuted. Be careful. We don't want anything to happen to you.
I like Roger.
He's funny.
wishing VanFraud a very happy birthday.
I hope you enjoy all the conspiracy video tapes and action movies. I hope the fbi and secret service busts your smelly ass and makes an example out of you much sooner then you actually believe it will.
I understand you feel like an important person due to the misstatements you have made for the last 20 years but things get to catch up with people like you and exposure is a shitty way to go.
So I hope you hang yourself before things get going next few weeks you sick fucking asshole.
I really hope you die vanfraud and I hope it happens in a slow and painful way.
I don't wish this for anyone except you.
You are so special that you really deserve it.
good luck and good bye motherfucker.
How about some of us on the blog start to call Silver Bay and ask if we can book a room for a day or two during the time vangod and his follower are there.
If they have no space it must mean the brats bought all the beds. If they do have space it means that John was a target by the vanclub that Silver Bay bought into.
This add more fuel to the law suit fire for John. It would be cool to do a few law suits against vangod and his supporters. If Sliver Bay agreed to boycott John than they are supporter of the vangod.
No, they just want NXIVM only eyes and ears here in for the week, that's all.
They don't want no witnesses.
That's why Sugar Vanguard Daddy will surely be gifted his own little island from the two bit¢he$ !
John, well you are still posting. Hopefully this means you have not been arrested and you are still kicking.
I don't understand the sash stuff. I saw that Roger is wearing a white sash. I saw that VIP wear purple sashes, trainees wear red sashes, instructors wear yellow ones ?
Anonymous, about the sash:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=kS4PAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Now don't go copying that. :D
Notice this is described as a "Rational Inquiry" sash. That term should sound familiar. Its from Keith's "invented" method:
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2002021481
Read through the description to this part:
"Essentially instead of attacking a structure that is based on a fear, the practitioner builds another structure that is strong and supported by consistent information. Once the stronger structure is in place, the practitioner transitions the person to that structure and the fear structure collapses. To do this the practitioner talks around a nonintegrated issue, constructing concepts around the issue in such a way that it is not the only thing that is supporting their belief system."
Basically, this is the heart of reprogramming someone to a new value and belief system. Hmmm. I wonder why someone would do that? :)
Thank you 'Not like Keith' ! :-)
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